1. Apparently, so says the media, Obama supporters were a big reason these propositions passed in all three states. Obama is against gay marriage, so therefore, many of his supporters wanted to vote that way.

    The riots looked totally scary. And it is silly for people to think that the LDS church is the only reason this passed. Just shows what Satan wants to attack, though, doesn’t it?

  2. I admire you for standing up and speaking out. I am not even in the mess (thousands of miles from all of it) and I am keeping quiet, even on facebook so I don’t meet any confrontations.

    You’re right. We can’t separate our church selves from our other selves. And if anyone thinks they are, they are in denial. There is a difference between expressing beliefs and practicing tolerance. In this case, everyone is supporting their beliefs. They just seem to be very tender and personal beliefs.

    I have enjoyed what you have had to say. Someone has to say it and that someone it isn’t me, yet.

  3. Bless you for holding strong.

    I am pleasantly surprised that Prop 8 passed, given all the lies and emotionally charged propaganda that high profile politicians, media and celebrities were spewing. But I am saddened by what appears to be an accelerating deterioration of decent values, and the growing strength of MORALITY TERRORISTS. With political correctness as their club, we are being bullied with increasing intensity.

    Criminal behavior is overlooked, even justified in the media. For example, this morning on the radio I heard the story that Melissa Etheridge was going to refuse to pay CA state tax out of protest to what she perceives as being treated as a non-citizen. The DJ condoned this action, saying “good for you”.

    The news report of the Mormon LA Temple protest was heavy on the coverage of the contention, and only (grudgingly, it seems) willing to acknowledge in it’s last paragraph that gay rights are not taken away:

    “A 2003 California law already gives gays registered as domestic partners nearly all the state rights and responsibilities of married couples when it comes to such things as taxes, estate planning and medical decisions. That law is still in effect.”

    I find it interesting that the second to last paragraph also noted that “Supporters of the ban said they will not seek to invalidate the marriages already performed and will leave any legal challenges to others”, proving that this was not aimed at taking away gay rights, but preserving traditional marriage, maintaining freedom of religion (can’t you picture Churches getting sued for not marrying gay couples?), and allowing charitable organizations to perform services without violating their beliefs (reference the Catholic Church’s dissolving of their charitable organization in Boston because they were forced to place adopted children into gay couple homes).

    It’s too bad that the “leaders” against Prop 8 have not taken a less contentious path towards achieving respect and whatever rights they feel the gay community is missing. It seems to me that making Domestic Partnerships equal to Married Couples in terms of estate and property issues, medical issues, etc. could give all the desired rights this group is apparently seeking, without impacting the key issues for supporters of Prop 8. Unfortunately, I suspect that this battle is not about being treated equally, but instead about forcing religeous groups into accepting the gay lifestyle. For opponents of Prop 8, I fear it is not about tolerance and respect, it is about submission. With submission as the goal, we’re never going to have an acceptable resolution.

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