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Yesterday I was rushing to get dinner (before Soccer, of course) and had been half listening to Oprah when the news came on of a giant protest at the LDS temple in LA. Wide eyed I re-wound to see what they were saying.

And while I was gonna let prop 8 go — I just can’t let this go without a few comments.

1. Did the actual church donate money? I don’t think so. I think they made a few “in kind” donations of flying some GA’s to CA to help out, but I think that’s it. Anyone know for sure? They keep saying the “church” gave money, and I think that’s a myth, but I could be wrong (I know, shockingly, it happens). They did encourage us to donate, but any money we did was all on our own.

2. There is no way to separate your “church self” from your “regular self” and if there is, you’re a hypocrite. If you’re asking me to vote without taking any of the morals which I so strongly believe in (which also just so happen to be many of the things I learn at church) I might as well not vote. It’s just not possible. That’s all we’re doing. They didn’t ask us to vote for McCain, they asked us to vote what was in our hearts. Do I separate my church self from the one that brings casseroles to a sick friend, or volunteers to watch their kid? Nope, that’s my church self too.

3. I’m kinda freaking out. I have a BYU licence plate holder, and I obviously had a Yes on 8 sign in my front yard. I was kind of expecting to be attacked as I took Conner to soccer last night, but I realized people are just using their rights of free speech. Hopefully that’s where it ends, yesterday seemed to be pretty peaceful, all thing considered (unless you were trying to drive around there — that would’ve stunk!).

4. Half of CA voted for this. Mormons apparently are only 4% of the population (somehow I think that’s wrong, but I’ve heard it quoted). We were NOT the only church you backed this, but we are organized and we did a grass roots efforts for which we should be proud. Any campaign would be lucky to have as many volunteers. I wonder if those who are protesting went door to door to share their thoughts. I wonder if they donated money to their campaign. I wonder if they thought about any of this before we all cast our vote.

I think that’s all I’m going to say. It will be interesting to see what the courts do with this. I know it will hurt all of our vote if they decide to overturn it. However, they’ve done it before. And I do believe in this instance Gavin Newsom was prophetic. “Whether we like it or not…”

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  1. says

    Apparently, so says the media, Obama supporters were a big reason these propositions passed in all three states. Obama is against gay marriage, so therefore, many of his supporters wanted to vote that way.

    The riots looked totally scary. And it is silly for people to think that the LDS church is the only reason this passed. Just shows what Satan wants to attack, though, doesn’t it?

  2. says

    I admire you for standing up and speaking out. I am not even in the mess (thousands of miles from all of it) and I am keeping quiet, even on facebook so I don’t meet any confrontations.

    You’re right. We can’t separate our church selves from our other selves. And if anyone thinks they are, they are in denial. There is a difference between expressing beliefs and practicing tolerance. In this case, everyone is supporting their beliefs. They just seem to be very tender and personal beliefs.

    I have enjoyed what you have had to say. Someone has to say it and that someone it isn’t me, yet.

  3. Anonymous says

    Bless you for holding strong.

    I am pleasantly surprised that Prop 8 passed, given all the lies and emotionally charged propaganda that high profile politicians, media and celebrities were spewing. But I am saddened by what appears to be an accelerating deterioration of decent values, and the growing strength of MORALITY TERRORISTS. With political correctness as their club, we are being bullied with increasing intensity.

    Criminal behavior is overlooked, even justified in the media. For example, this morning on the radio I heard the story that Melissa Etheridge was going to refuse to pay CA state tax out of protest to what she perceives as being treated as a non-citizen. The DJ condoned this action, saying “good for you”.

    The news report of the Mormon LA Temple protest was heavy on the coverage of the contention, and only (grudgingly, it seems) willing to acknowledge in it’s last paragraph that gay rights are not taken away:

    “A 2003 California law already gives gays registered as domestic partners nearly all the state rights and responsibilities of married couples when it comes to such things as taxes, estate planning and medical decisions. That law is still in effect.”

    I find it interesting that the second to last paragraph also noted that “Supporters of the ban said they will not seek to invalidate the marriages already performed and will leave any legal challenges to others”, proving that this was not aimed at taking away gay rights, but preserving traditional marriage, maintaining freedom of religion (can’t you picture Churches getting sued for not marrying gay couples?), and allowing charitable organizations to perform services without violating their beliefs (reference the Catholic Church’s dissolving of their charitable organization in Boston because they were forced to place adopted children into gay couple homes).

    It’s too bad that the “leaders” against Prop 8 have not taken a less contentious path towards achieving respect and whatever rights they feel the gay community is missing. It seems to me that making Domestic Partnerships equal to Married Couples in terms of estate and property issues, medical issues, etc. could give all the desired rights this group is apparently seeking, without impacting the key issues for supporters of Prop 8. Unfortunately, I suspect that this battle is not about being treated equally, but instead about forcing religeous groups into accepting the gay lifestyle. For opponents of Prop 8, I fear it is not about tolerance and respect, it is about submission. With submission as the goal, we’re never going to have an acceptable resolution.

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